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Here in the Great Northwest moss build-up on roofs is a huge problem. It is very unsightly and will shorten the life-span of your roof. Here's some advice you can consider to clean your roof w/o causing more damage than the moss would cause leaving it there. Pressure-washer damage is a common mistake Homeowners make all too often. If you are not able to do this cleaning work yourself and you happen to live in the Portland, Oregon Metro Area you can call me to help, but I did not write this page to sell this type of work. I have more than enough work replacing gutters. |
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What causes so much moss growth on roofs here in the N. W.? |
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(a) As you may have noticed most of the moss build-up on roofs is seen on the North facing sides and where there are shade trees near the house which drip sap and drop other debris on the roof. Moss spores are tiny and will travel great distances through the wind, so there's no way to avoid it. Thick layers of moss will trap moisture like a sponge for a long time, but on the other sides it may not get a chance to build up thick like it will on the Northern sidse, unless there are some shade trees near by. Moss is not a fungus that likes darker areas, but the North facing sides of the roof and heavily shaded areas grow more moss because the lack of direct Sunlight exposure doesn't have a chance to dry it out. Like any plant it needs moisture to survive. The heat of direct mid-day sunlight will dry it out to the point it cannot survive without frequent rain, which is why we see a lot more moss in this area than other parts of the country. Moss needs to feed on the decomposing dust and tree debris that gets trapped on roofs, which is another reason you will see a lot more moss on the roof under an overhanging tree that has littered the roof with it's fall-out and sap, so if you look around you will see a direct correlation. |
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Why is moss bad for roofs? |
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It is true how the UV rays of the Sun is one of the main causes of aging any roofing material, and some people think it's actually good to have a heavy layer of moss to shield their roof from exposure to the elements. Some even jokingly say the moss is the only thing holding their roof together. This of course is not true. Moss growth is clearly more detrimental than it could help on most any surface. It is one of nature’s ways to help recycle in life. It works to eat away and decompose what it resides on to break it back down the the Earth without a trace given enough time. I think we've all seen these sort of quaint looking roof covered in thick layers of moss. This shed roof was let go so long it had ferns growing in the heavy blankets of moss near the bottom edge where most of the rain water would settle and able to feed off the decomposing wood under the shingles. The shed behind it had been covered with a blue tarp to prevent leaks, but had suffered enough Sun and wind to shred it. The foundation as you can see has been compromised as well. It may look charming to walk through a forest with huge draping coverage of moss on tree trunks and branches, but that is an unhealthy sign in a forest, and the best reasons for forest fires to cleans them of these infestations. The Forestry Department in the areas of Oregon and Washington have begun to realize how they've done more harm than good to fight forest fires over the last century by not allowing the natural sterilization and thinning of diseased trees to take place. Moss will attack sick trees. In more extreme cases you will even see ferns growing in the thick moss growth up in the trees and even on roofs that were left too long this way, as seen above. So, in general moss is a sign of there being something wrong. Very dirty if nothing else. |
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How does moss damage composite shingles? |
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Some feel that moss is a great way to shade your
roof from the harsh rays of the Sun, but Mother Nature works hard to
recycle everything it can in several different ways. Not only through
breaking it down with the Sun's UV rays, but also with corrosive
oxidization, and bacterial decomposition, not to mention erosion. The
tiny roots of the moss dig
into the roofing shingle surface and loosen the sand to lift it off the
petroleum material under it. They also work up under the overlapping
shingles, splitting them apart. Moss will also hold moisture against
the shingles and flashing like a sponge, causing the bacteria growth to rage and
decompose your roofing. Asphalt shingles are very resistant to this
sort of decay, but everything has limits and eventually
will cause leaks. Heavy moss growth can eat
up 5 to 10 years life span from
your roof if left treated, yet in many cases cleaning the roof can
cause more damage than the moss if done the fast easy way with a
strong pressure washer. So let me be perfectly clear on this issue:
Never let anyone get up on your roof with a pressure washer to clean
off your roof! I'll explain why below. |
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What are the wrong ways to clean roofs and must be avoided? |
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A Pressure Washer Normal house-hold water pressure is around 150
psi (pounds per square inch pressure) or less. The problem with pressure washers is
how they are designed to deliver 3,000 to 4,000 psi concentrated
into a narrow blast, which will dislocate a
good 30% of the sand off your shingles. That sand is there to shade
the petroleum material those shingles are made of from the attack of
the Sun . Pretty much any roofing material is not designed to
withstand more than a 100 mph wind storm, yet that high pressured water
blast would certainly simulate a great deal more and it will
force water into places that can cause a good deal of water damage on
your home. Bleach Detergent Powder
Moss Treatment It is best to wet the roof just before sprinkling on the powder. This help keep the powder from getting blown off the roof from just a light breeze long before it had a chance to work it's magic. You do not breath it in as well, so a face mask is well advised. You may want to very lightly wet the roof again right after applying it to help keep it in place and spread it around, but not too much or you will just be rinsing the powder off your roof and drive it into your gutters and ground soil from there without gaining the benefit. Several different companies make those powders. I don't think it much matters which brand you use. They are easy to apply if your roof is not steep, but it will not remove the moss build-up and depending on how much tree coverage you have near your house it has to be re-applied each year or so. Long term this could be more costly than the one time expense of a copper ridge cap, than to hire a licenses pesticide contractors to apply this to your roof over the next decade+. Although, after it washes off your roof and kills all the trees near your house you will wind up with much less of a moss problem. Many people think it is the mild detergent in this powder that kills the moss, so they think they can just sprinkle laundry detergent on their roof, but it is actually the zinc phosphate that does the trick. Zinc is an inexpensive metal compared compared to copper, which has shown to have an effective anti-fungal property in the same way. It should only take a half hour to treat a low slope roof on most houses, but a steep roof may be too dangerous for a Homeowner to attempt. Another concern is do not to use that type of powder on a roof that has copper gutters. I have personally seen evidence of a chemical reaction that dissolved holes through the floor of the copper gutters. It will turn the inside of the copper gutters a hot pink if it is causing that sort of adverse reaction. The only viable option for roofs with copper gutters is to have copper ridge and hip covers installed if you want to prevent moss growth. I have not seen a powder like product made with copper in it in stead of the cheaper zincoxcide. Zinc Metal
Strips The worst part is how these strips would curl up and troth water within a couple years like a tape measure blade. They will dip in a few places where you will see clean streaks down the roof where those dip points are, but that makes the roof look even more noticeably messy with such uneven clean streaks. Here's a couple shots I took of a house where they had attached a top and mid strip of zinc on their roof. If you click on these pictures to see them larger you can see better how they were still not effective enough to keep the moss from forming on the roof. Perhaps it looks even worse now. Besides the look of that mid strip; they now have those irregular streaks you can see where the roof is clear of moss. Also, this zinc is not able to remove the moss that is there. Being such a soft metal zinc is not good as a ridge cap, but a zinc galvanized steel sheet metal can be used effectively for a temporary solution, but you will need to make sure it gets replaced before it starts to rust, or you will have unsightly rust stains on your roof. See below for how to safely remove moss off roofs. |
| What is a long term low maintenance solution? |
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Copper Hip and Ridge Caps w/other Copper Roof Flashing This shows copper roof flashing kits that range from drip-edge, T-edge metal, W-valley, and deluxe ridge cap bent in 20oz copper sheet stock w/stainless steel fasteners or copper nails for as little as $15 sq' + crate and delivery charges if needed. This is a bit more costly initial investment,
but it's also a long lasting trouble
free solution that can be re-used over again when re-roofing
is required; making it a one time purchase. It is an excellent option
for several reasons: The 10' long section should overlaps about 4" to 6", so this needs to be factored in when ordering a set. They should not be caulked or soldered together, or they will be very hard to remove to be reused after a reroofing. It should come down at least 7" to 12" on each side. The more bends it has the stronger and straighter it will be after it is mounted. There are several ways and designs to form these that can add a decorative touch to your roof. This is also a good way to incorporate a hidden ridge vent as well. There are numerous different companies making ridge vent material that is then covered by roofing, but it can be covered with copper just as well. Here is better screened roof vent design for you to consider: Contact us for more details and pricing. Custom copper ridge caps made to order, since the angles and styles are each so different for the many different houses we've worked on. The material is also too expensive to make several up to have stock on hand. |
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How To Safely Remove the Moss: |
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Scraping by Hand: To remove only about 90% of the bulky moss; a garden
hoe can work to scrap it off, but it is really tedious since it is not
very wide. A better tool is to use a stiff-tooth rake and attach a scrapper on it, so not to use the teeth of the rake. A stiff 3" to 4"
tall strip of aluminum sheet-metal that is taller than the teeth of
the rake is attached on the inside edge of the rake. It is best to have
the bottom edge of the sheet metal bent at a 45 degree angle about 1"
up, in towards the handle along the bottom edge to scrape the moss downwards.
This bend can allow the scraper to be a few inches wider than the rake.
A few small holes are drilled through the sheet-metal to run a few nylon
ties through it to fasten it temporarily to the rake teeth. Clean-up:
Disclaimer: |
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What if We Do Not Live There? |
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If you are not fortunate to be living here in the Portland Oregon Metro Area, this info should help you find the right Contractor to do this as I specified. Feel free to insist they read this web site and follow it to the letter. Or just print it out for them to read, and insist they read it there in front of you. If they balk at it or try to debate the validity of this web page, that should be very telling, and you should not hire them! The damages will be your loss, not theirs. You are not likely to get them to volunteer to repair those damages, and it will be very hard to prove their responsibility years later. |
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What if We Do Live There in Paradise? |
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If you are fortunate to be living here in the Portland, Oregon Metro Area I will be happy to assist you with your needs, doing it the right way, but I am not licensed to apply that powder treatment, as it is considered a dangerous pesticide and not covered by my Contractor's License. I would need to get the licensing and insurance to cover pesticide applicators, but you are free to apply that to your own roof. As to a cost example of the different options we can offer: roofing is calculated in 100 square foot sections, or a 10' x 10' area called a square of roofing. These example prices below are based on a small low-slop roofed house (6/12 pitch or less) composite roof, with around 10 squares of roofing (or 1,000 square feet, which is different than the floor space in a house). A medium size house typically has around 25 squares of roofing. The cost varies due to the complexities and safety issues to access all the areas of your roof. Please go to our Contact web page and send us an e-mail telling us what you need or may want along with some digital photos of your house. (a) $300 to do a simple scrape and clean up; removing the bulk of the moss, which would be around 70 to 80%, including a gutter cleaning of course. (b) $800 to carefully scrape the moss off, removing around 95% of the moss build-up, along with clean up including the gutters. (c) $1,425 to do a simple scrape and clean up; removing around 70 to 80% of the debris, and install an 18” wide custom 20oz copper roof ridge cap 30' long. Keep in mind that this should be the last time this needs to be done, and the copper ridge cap is removable to be reused after a new roofing is installed as needed. We offer a 10% discount if you're also having us replace your gutters at that time. (d) $2,300 for a 95% scrape and install a 24” wide deluxe custom copper ridge cap 30' long. (e) $3,030 for a 95% scrape and install a 24” wide deluxe custom copper ridge cap 30' long with our hidden vent system under the ridge cap. |
| How does moss damage metal roofs? |
Moss and mildew on metal roofs is more a problem for anyone who needs to access your roof than the deterioration of the sheet-metal. They are very dangerous to access for servicing, since they mildew in short order and become very slick when damp! Even for a low slop roof. Wood shakes also moss-up like this and become very slick, but at least workers can wear special cleated boots. There are no special shoes made to walk safely on metal roofs. There are numerous problems with all types of metal roofs, as described on our Roofing web page. The moss will also hold moisture against the painted metal, causing the bacteria rage and buckle the paint off. Then resulting in quickly rusting through that thin steel sheet-metal. Once that steel begins to rust it is too late to just have it re-painted. The paint may stick to the rust, but the rust will flake off the rest of the steel. It will have to be carefully sanded down and primed, which is very costly and may cause a penetration to the steel sheet-metal surface. It is usually necessary to replace the roof at that point. Replacing only part of the metal roofing could be done, but would odd to see the oxidized paint of the older roof with the new replaced section. Also, most any roofing contractors will not even give you that kind of option. It would not be something they would be willing to do or warranty, even thought the CCB only requires a 1 year warranty on construction. There incentive is to sell you a complete new roofing job. |
| How does moss damage wood shakes |
Cedar wood roofing shingles are far more vulnerable to this kind of damage. Regular treatment of these 40 year cedar shake roofing is so costly that few home owners will have their roof treated as they should. Because of this it is rare to get a 20 year life span from these 40 year roofs. If they had gotten it treated as they should, in 40 years they would have spent more money than the cost of 2 new roofs, as well as the head-ache of finding competent workers to do this without causing more damage than the moss. That dry-rot of the expose wood may not be your primary concern, since the painted steel valley metal and other flashing, that is most always used, will rarely last more than 20 years anyway. It is just a shame that these owners were fooled into paying so much more for that short lived roof. Often more than the cost of a good 40 year composite roof with copper valleys and flashing. |
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Clay & concrete roofing tiles |
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Tile roofs are resistant to wear and tear of the elements, depending on what it is made of. There is a huge difference between the different roof tiles sold. Tiles tend to grow moss and mildew more than most any other roofing, clogging up the gutter each year. It looking quite unsightly. It can grow up under the overlapping shingle and crack them, causing substantial leaking that may be hard to spot and fix. Clay tiles with a glazing on them are much less porous and are much more resistant to damage of this kind, but rare to see on a house. The steel sheet-metal flashing and valley trays under the tiles are the biggest concern for this issue, and harder to access to clean out right. Note: It is highly recommended to check this and hire a contractor to replace all the flashing with aluminum, lead, copper, or stainless steel. We recommend copper flashing. A simple test can be preformed: magnet should not be able to stick to any of the rust free metals. If it is painted or zinc galvanized, it is not stainless steel. |
| Thatch roofing |
There is nothing much to say on this subject, since you would be hard pressed to find a thatch here in the States, but the damage potential should be pretty obvious. |
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| Contractor's Liability Insurance Coverage Issue |
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First off; a contractor's license does not allow for applying a moss killing agent chemical or powder. That has to be done by a pesticide contractor, although most pesticide contractors will not work on roofs. Most contractors do not carry the liability insurance and workman's comp that covers roofing work. This liability insurance is about 4 to 5 times as expensive as all the other types of construction work. This has nothing to do with the dangerous nature of roofing work. That is what Workman's Comp covers, so if a worker falls off and gets hurt, they will not need to sue the homeowner. The liability insurance is to protect you incase the contractor or his workers screw up the roofing project and damage your house. It seems that the roofers in this area have been doing such crappy work that they have accounted for 70 to 90% of all the claims processed by the CCB in Oregon. This is one of the worst statistics you are likely to run across. And that is even considering how most homeowner are not able to act on their complaint within the first year, and in many cases it is a moot point, since the CCB only requires a 1 year warranty by all licensed contractors. Few homeowners will really check into the contractor's background for reported complaints to check and see that they carry the proper insurance to cover roofing work. Take the time, or you will be sorry. Ask for a written warranty that is longer than one year. There should be no reason that a reputable contractor would not be proud to write you a 20-year installation warranty if they truly believe in their work. |
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To recap, insist on: (a) No pressure washers to be used on your roof! Nothing stronger than a garden hose spraying downwards only. They need to use a hand scraper, or a wider hoe like scraper as described above, and carefully scrape the moss off without damaging your roofing. (b) To fully clean up their mess and haul that debris away (no illegal dumps). (c) A new custom copper roof ridge and hip caps are best to prevent further moss build-up. (d) A moss control powder can be applied to kill the moss and mildew that was missed as well as the moss spores left behind, but not to be used on roof with copper gutters. (e) Get some leaf protection for your gutters (if you have them) to help minimize the traffic on your roof in the future. |
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We can help you with some of this if you live local to the Portland Oregon Metro Area. You can go to our contact info web page to find my cell phone #, but it is best to send me an informational e-mail first; going over your situation, digital photos, and your contact information with times to be reached, and we will send you a response e-mail within 24 hours to make arrangements to set up a time to go over your issues and costs. |
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