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2013 Continuous Gutter Parts Delivery Service
for Local DIY Updated 5 / 2013 |
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Why
consider a DYI installation? If you are a real Go-getter this could be a great advantage to our time-frame and of course personal saticefaction as well. Although, if there's a chance you're a procrastinator it would still be faster to wait for us to do the installation. I have seen several DYI'ers take longer to finish their installation than waiting for us to install, so keep that in mind. I hate to see that happen. I want to see you succeed at this. As you may have found out already; any Gutter Contractor worth a darn is going to be booked out a ways, and you many not feel you can wait several months for us to fit your project in. If they're not booked up that's highly suspect of their reputation. There may be scary reasons they are able to jump right on it for you, and you'll find the need to replace the crappy work they did after the first heavy rain fall. Other than the learning curve your best advantage is you'll know it was installed well if you do-it-yourself. For some reason you cannot seem to pay most Contractors enough to care about quality over profit, which is why I got into this line of work myself; knowing the right material are used and installed well. If your gutters are not rusted out or falling off just replacing your downspouts alone will benefit you substantially with improved functionallity to most any house. Especially from those dysfunctional plain square DSP (downspout pipes) found on most houses built within the last 4 decades. New aluminum DSP parts would run you as little as $28 for a 1 story application, and simple enough to do. If you would like the advantage of 3X larger No-clog outlet option a DSP assembly kit runs just $66 each for larger outlet conversion and a Leaf-catcher (shown to the right). This is including all the brackets, rivets, and stainless steel screws needed. |
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Why not just buy parts from a hardware Store? You would not even be able to get some of these parts from the local wholesale warehouse that sells to Licensed Contractors. The parts I sell are better than even most Gutter Contractors use. The part we supply you are the same professional rust free parts we use. I have researched alternative resources for better gutter parts, which are better than those sold to Gutter Contractors here in the NW, becaus of the lack of demand. I have to order these gutter parts from 9 different suppliers in 5 different States across the Nation. There is a substantial difference in how strong these parts are, how they work, and how long they will last. The continuous lengths of gutter I form are also better that you'll find from other Gutter Contractors with the safety hem my machine forms on the back wall of the gutter. It is also one of the few that have been kept out of the weather since it was new. |
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Are there any other Gutter Contractors
offering this sort of service? As you'll see I've been quite generous with information here. If you're real nice I'll enve offer you a wealth of my 20 years experience to suggest improvements to the gutter system you have now after reviewing some digital photos you send me. |
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Can you measure my house and process the
gutters for me? Here is a testimony from a client who traveled to us from San Jose to get a set of our copper gutter lengths and several other custom parts to suit his needs. From: Peter Troop
<ptroop@sbcglobal.n*t> |
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Can you show us how to process the
gutters? |
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Do you offer free phone support if we
understand your instructions? As stated above it would probably take us less time to process those parts and install them for you; then it would take to explain all this to you over the phone. I am willing to answer some minor questions, but if it's going to be more involved than just a short 5 minute call we will need to arrange a consultation fee first. |
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For whom is this service available? Just believing you can do this is the hardest hurdle you'll probably face. I applaud those who have the gumption to try, which is why I offer this service. Take the time to read over the instructions I have provided here and imagine the possibilities. These prices are for those within our local Portland, Oregon Metro area for a delivery of these long gutter lengths or pick up (if they are not too long to handle). I have had some out of State clients, but shipping long lengths of gutters can be a bit more costly in order to build sturdy wood crates and truck freight. If you are not local to NW Oregon, go to our Custom Parts Shipping web page for our special gutter accessories that I ship out FedEx Ground for the prices listed there. I seem to sell to Homeowners more than licensed Contractors ten fold, so don't be shy to ask for my assistance and advice regarding your order. |
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When can
you deliver? For combined gutter runs above 150' the delivery fee is waived, but for smaller parts deliveries within our local Portland, Oregon Metro area it runs $75 an hour round trip. |
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How do
I arrange this? I have gone out of my way to provide you with this convenient chart to help you work up an order. You can see a larger copy of our gutter chart by just clicking on the image to the right for printing it out. Take measurements, fill it out using the prices below, and send it in with your payment. Feel free to e-mail me with a scanned copy for confirmation of your numbers or with any questions you may have. I will respond within 24 hours. I can mail you a hard copy if you are not able to print out this chart. Call me if it is very urgent. I may need to call you back, as I will most likely be at a job site, perhaps up on a ladder. Remember that I can make them a little longer to make sure they will fit just right. If you are not sure about your measurements they can be trimmed back to fit, but it will be very frustrating if they are too short, and may not be usable. To clarify your options there are a few different ways to do this and cost options.
(a) If you have a way to come here to get the parts and safely
transport them you would save the cost of
delivered parts.
Be sure to mention this detail when placing your order. I have been
transporting hundreds of long continuous gutter lengths on the
freeway and City streets for 2 decades w/o incident, so it can be
done, but there's no guantees. My record is 61' in one piece, but I
would not recommend you try to do this with more than 35' w/o
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Minimum charge? I will do small jobs, but I need to have a $200 minimum for these kits. If you are able to pick up the parts here at our shop I may waive the minimum charge. Be sure to e-mail and call first to be sure we have the parts you need in stock and to arrange a time for us to be here for the pick-up. |
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Installation Instructions: To read more about the design and function details of our
Leaf-catchers see: |
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Gutters & Downspout Prices |
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Aluminum | Copper |
| Gutter Run-outs w/a Monster Hidden Hanger for every 2' of gutter w/a pair of stainless steel screws for each | $3 a foot |
$10' a foot for 16oz or $12' for thicker 20oz |
| 2"x3" Downspouts 10' or cut to length you need (pipe-cleats & SS screws sold separately below) |
$2.00 a foot or per elbow |
$8 a foot or per elbow |
| 2x Larger 3" x 4" Downspouts come in 10' sections, but can be cut to just the length you need. |
$4.00 a foot or per elbow |
$12 a foot or per elbow |
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Gutter Accessory Prices
Note: I don't have a fancy shopping cart system
here, so simply
e-mail with what you want. Installation instruction are below, and click here for our order and contact info |
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1.5" wide Monster Hidden Hangers:Sold separately for rehanging any 5" gutter Each comes w/a pair of #12 stainless steel screws $175 for box of 100 in 0.065 Aluminum $400 for box of 100 in 48oz Copper |
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Left
or Right End-caps:Aluminum $2 each Copper $8 each |
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Pre-fab Inside
or Outside Corners:
More common outside corner shown here in white painted aluminum |
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5"x 4' long w/black powder-bake finish over steel, curl under attachment (may need a pair of screws for each to secure). $175 per box (25 piece/100' per box, but can be packed to order) |
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Large
Pipe Cleats:5 3/4" wide 1 3/8" tall (used for mounting downspouts) w/6 rivets and a pair of stainless steel screws for each bracket. The Copper pipe cleats come with 6 SS screws per bracket. $2 each set in .065 Aluminum $8 each set in 48oz Copper |
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w/stainless steel screen strainer basket See color chart f for selections. Standard 2X3 downspout size - $25 ea. Larger 3X4 DS - $30 ea.
16oz Copper:
20oz Copper:
Please specify: Option 'c' is used with 2X3 for a larger strainer basket, or w/3X4 to make it easier to fit below into a standard 3" storm drain pipe. T To read more about the design & function details of our Leaf-catchers see:http://dmr-gutters.com/opt.htm#catchers |
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Downspout
Reducer:8 sided reducer designed for corrugated 3"x 4" to 2"x 3" downspouts. We have 8 different templates, so please be specific with your order: (a) common 'A' style (as shown) (b) 'B' style - seam on narrow sides (c) No eave gutter outlet/reducer (d) End of gutter outlet/reducer In each 4 styles listed above specify 12" or 15" long versions.
Aluminum
Reducer:
Copper Reducer: |
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Super No-Clog Outlet Combo Set: Scupper
made with a 3.25"
X 10" wide top w/4" X 5" bottom sealed to a larger 3x4 elbow.Note: These are very useful for under an expansion joint for long gutter lengths, as shown here in this image of a cut-away attachment before the other gutter length is added.
Aluminum Super-Outlet:
Copper Super-Outlet: |
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Funnels:Used to join a pair of DS pipes down into a single DS. 15" tall x 6.5" wide, 8 sided. Specify size. Includes rivets, a pipe cleat, and a 3 SS screws.
Aluminum Funnel
(as shown) for 3x4 DS - $25 each
Copper Funnel for 3x4 DS - $45 each |
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5 Facet Scupper/Funnel:Commonly for flat roof outlets, or a decorative funnel. Has a rim bent over the top edge for added strength. Includes rivets, a pipe cleat, and SS mounting screws. Specify color. Measurements for 2X3 DSP: 8.5" wide, 5.5" deep, 13" tall Measurements for 3X4 DSP: 12" wide, 8" deep, 12" tall
Aluminum
Scupper
(as shown)
20oz Copper
Scupper |
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Special
Rain-cups Outlet:Rain-cups are used in leu of a regular downspout to. This outlet piece helps to effectively funnel the rain water into the cups allowing for a larger outlet opening. Includes rivets, 1/4" SS hook, and 4 ga copper wire for rain-cup attachment. 30 pre-painted colors for aluminum
Aluminum Rain-cups Outlet (as shown)
Copper
Rain-cups Outlet Go here for
more detailed installation instructions and photos: |
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Drip Edge
Flashing: Standard 1x3, or custom dimensions available. Recommended lengths 5' to 6', but can be made in 10' to 12' strips.
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PRO-SEAL 34
Caulk:Rated at 350% expansion. $15 each 10.5oz tube |
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Rivets: Painted aluminum (not available in all colors) $4 per 100 Copper w/brass mandrels $9 per 100 |
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Matching
touch-up spray paint:$6 per shaker can A set of color chips: for available pre-painted aluminum $2 - php |
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and Brass Rain Chain/Cups
(funnels)An alternative to a closed downspout, as long as you have a good system to catch this water under it and channel it away from the house foundation. It is best to remove the end-cap and bend the floor of the gutter down to direct the water into the top of the rain-cups. This helps prevent debris from forming a blockage. I use a 1/4" stainless steel eye hook or place a hidden hanger on the end for attachment. They also come in a 3 funnels per foot without the chain link between them. These shown below comes in sets of 1 ornamental funnels per foot that link together with these hollow tubular loop chains for up to 3 story lengths, and are sold without the loops. Bluebell or Crocus $110 - 6' strand all funnels (no loops as seen above) $80 - 6' strand w/loops
Buttercup,
Fish, Tulip, or Umbrella
Tea Pot over Tea Cups or Watering Can over
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200' of the heavy gauge 20oz copper gutters from me to install himself
in Lake Oswego, Oregon. This may give you a better sense of what this
is like better than anything I could tell you:
From: "Berglund,
Carl A" <carl.berglund@XX.c*m>
Thanks David,
I didn't ever find a crimper
that could put a dimple for sealing the end caps that's why
I am short in that I had to use rivets on every end cap. That
sealant is some sticky stuff, worse almost than vaulkum.
<I could have gotten the tools needed for you, since many of them are not found and hardware stores. Although, I suppose that is the better way, since a few extra rivets are a lot cheaper than this hand tool you would not be likely to use again. As to the caulk; I aim to supply the best>
In any event things went
pretty smooth, I did find that on my house I could use pipe
clamps to rest the gutter on prior to putting in any screws.
This in my view made things much much easier. So depending
upon how the fascia is put up, if there is a way to either a.
clamp a board up to hold the gutter, or b. just use the end
of the clamp it made it possible to get the gutter up, then
position it, fine tune it's pitch, etc.. without ever doing
a screw - very very handy. Also If I needed a helper it was
only to get it up onto the clamps - then I was good to go.
<That is a great idea I had not considered. Aluminum gutters are only 1/3 the weight, and since all I did was aluminum for the first 5 years I never bothered to rig up something like that.>
Tips, I bought a very high
quality level (I have numerous but the precision of the bubble
for just touching the line wasn't very good. It's the blue ones
about 35-40$ for a 2 footer available at Sears home depot, Lowes
etc... it's there best one. Really did make a difference and
felt confident that the slope would be just enough but not too
much.
<That is a good point. I like the Stabila line of levels best.>
Just FYI, I find these gutters
to be "noisier" than our old. Not sure why, maybe copper, or
20 oz copper has a louder "ring" to it when water drips into
it.
<They are new and whistle clean. When they get a little debris in them they will be as quite as you remember the old ones being>
I can see why you always
wear gloves as well as long sleeve shirts, had a couple places
where it was obvious my arm touched them while installing, should
have worn a long sleeve. Chop saw worked well but
really loud, ear plugs recommended with eye protection a must.
<You are right. I should remember to caution people about how loud and shrill that is>
Back to tips, invest in a
good set of both short and long right and left tin snips. Additionally
a good set of 3 inch sheet metal bender pliers for downspouts.
<Kline or Midwest makes some good hand tools. The ships should always be the 'off-set' type. Not the type you commonly see in hardware stores.>
I found that for the downspout
holes to work out best you can not just do a simple X cut but
have to cut inward from the 1 inch hole saw area out and in
the corners need real care to get them to end up as big a hole
as possible yet have it flare into the downspout right - hope
that makes sense but showing one that you have done to a DIY
would be very helpful.
<I do: http://dmr-gutters.com/cg/Kistler4.htm . It may not show the hole-saw system. I have a standard size hole punch I use, but it shows how I make 8 cuts to maximize the outlet size.>
Pay very close attention
to downspouts near corners or against any part of the house
that projects out and do as much of the manipulation of the
downspout bracket "holder" as possible prior to mounting it
on the downspout. (I was able to do some of the bends with a
bench clamp with good success and have the bends be more where
I wanted them and cleaner this way.)
<Yes, those pipe cleats are made with a very thick 48oz copper sheet metal>
Pay close attention to rivet
placement for consistent good looks on exterior. Important - have an onsite
consultation with you to aid in planning. You solved some nice
issues in ways I would not have thought of in that I was too
caught up in how it used to be rather than what was possible
to do better.
<I aim to please>
The leaf catchers in my mind
are way more important than the screens. I am finding with the
gutters flowing properly they are not gathering to any degree
the needles and leaf fall like they used to. A good strong deluge
and the needles flow with the water and do a very good job of
getting filtered out by the leaf catchers while essentially
self cleaning the gutters. I would not ever have a house without
them. (had them on the old gutters but they were of poor design
and in that the gutters didn't always go downhill and the downspouts
were small would always clog.)
<Right, the Leaf-catchers I make are my most popular feature for selling new gutter systems>
That's about it. Some of the corners could
be prettier but acceptable overall. Haven't done the flashing
on Chimneys yet, hope to this weekend, will put a patio umbrella
into the chimney hole if raining so I can do it mostly dry. Once we rock the chimney
I will be back to you about chimney caps.
<I will look forward to hearing from you when you are ready>
Thanks again, really appreciate
everything.
Carl Berglund |
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I also make custom aluminum
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DMR Gutters will also install gutters at your request, refer to our installation price sheet page Give me a try. Aside from the wait you may encounter, you won’t be disappointed. Guaranteed! I'd like to believe I'm worth the wait, but that's your call. |
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A Comparison to Our No-clog
Gutter System Above left is an actual aluminum LEAF GUARD ® gutter cross section profile that I have to show clients the clear difference. The image right shows our more user-friendly hinged copper leaf screen over our copper K-5 gutter for the same cost. |
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Gutter Installation web pages for answers and solutions that could save you thousands of $ and a great deal of anguish. If you do find this information very helpful, feel free to send us a $ tip for the assistance I so freely have published on the web here for your benefit, like you might tip a waitress. Heck, send us a gift certificate for a candle lit dinner for two. <LOL> |
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